From Struggle to Strength: Shelly Jean's Explant Journey | Wisdom Wednesday

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I'm your host, Namibanks and this is Wednesday and Wednesday you know, as we continue our July series on preparing for Transformation Today, I am so honored to share this space with someone who courage and vulnerability will touch your heart, perhaps illuminate your own path. Shelley Jean. She is a BII survivor who has walked the ex Black journey with grace, strength, and un wavery commitment to her own healing. Shelley's story is a testament to the power of listening to our bodies, trusting our inner knowing, and just having the courage to choose ourselves even when that choice feels scary or uncertain. Her journey reminds us that true transformation often receives requires us to release what no longer serves us, even when we once thought. It defines us. So before we bring Shelley to the stays, let's take a good break. All right, it's you, Gurtie got his Namber want this season and simpler podcast, and we'll be right back. Washington wells into two focuses on healing. 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All right, beautiful people will welcome back and hey, hey Shelly Jeanne, are you. I'm fabulous and yourself. I am good, I am good. I'm excited about this. First of all, I want to say thank you, thank you for being courageous to share your story. I know you've already been through it your a few years post office, if I'm if I'm correct, and so you've been through the journey, You've seen it all, and I just I'm just glad that you're here to help me to just bring more awareness to it because you was out there first. I'm just following right behad you right now. So thank you, and you. Know that that's exactly what I want to be doing, is sharing my story so that others like you that are going through this journey can feel confident that they too will be okay. And that's that's the whole goal, because as we're going through going through it, we're going through we're already really, really sick. So let's let's get to the healing side. Let's get to the other side and feel great about that. So you think you for having me to talk about this. I love that. I love that. All right, So, Shelley Gene, what we usually do before we get deep into the topic. We have a nice little grounding session. We ground ourselves. Before we get into topic, just to prepare us to be open and ready to receive whatever topic, whatever mess it comes from our conversation. All right, All right, listeners, so you already know what we do. We close your eyes and get in a nice little comfortable position. All right, Take a deep, new machine breath, then hold it gently. Now excel slowly, allowing your tudy body to soften and settle. I want you to feel yourself being held by this moment, supported by the earth beneath you, surrounded by the love and acceptance. I want you to visualize your heart opening like a flower, ready to receive the wisdom and the courage that comes from someone who has walked the path of deep healing and transformation. And as you breathe, I want you to invite your own inner knowing to awakening the part of you that recognizes truth when you hear it that it resonates with the stories of courage and authentic living. Now, I want you to breathe in openness, to learn, and breathe out any judgment of preconceptions. You are here to witness a sacred story of healing, and in doing so, you honor your own journey toward a wholeness. And when you are ready, gently bring your awareness back to our conversation, carrying this sens of openness and reverence with you. All right, my beautiful people, thank you for just sharing that space with me. And if you are new here to the Season and Simpler podcast, it's something we do every day Monday through Friday, again just to ground us before we get into the topic in hand, all right, So, as someone who has I'm just weeks away, weeks away from my own expect journey, I am deeply grateful for women like you who are willing to share their stories openly and honesty. You know, in these conversations they matter, not just because they provide information, but. Because it reminds us. It reminds us that we are not alone in the struggles of our healing. So when we share our stories of transformation, you know, the messy, the beautiful, the challenging, the empowering reality we're choosing ourselves, we create the bridge of understanding hope for others who are walking similar past. Well Again, shelley journey is particularly powerful because it demonstrates that healing is not just about removing what's harming us, but it's about reclaiming our relationship with our bodies without intuition, our authentic selves. Today, we would explore beginning of her story, the awakening that led her to question her implutse, the courage it took to make the decision to have them removed, and the profound healing that she's experienced on the other side. Again, Shelley thank you for being here with me and your willingness to share your journey with our community. But before we dive into your story, I want to acknowledge again the courage that it takes to be vulnerable kid in that way. So I'm gonna do you like right, no, thank. You, thank you. I am gratefully receiving. Yes, yes, yes, yes, So I'm gonna share with the listeners right now. So last week, she was actually supposed to came in last week, I'm putting you on the spir real fast, and she came in so. Nervous and she was like, are we going to record right now? Like oh no no, And I said, well no, I said, let's take our time because I know how sensitive it is to open up to someone about your journey, especially this a choice that you made in your life and now you're opening up about it. And so in that conversation. We had so many things with just so mirroring and echoing to one another, and it was so funny because she was just saying, you know, and this is my life and this is that says, and I'm like, good, if. You only knew my life. I had a Google yeah more, oh my. Gosh, and it was so funny because we were talking and everything like that, and you know, we exchange information that all the all of a sudden, I see on. My text, girl, you're a so bostar. You just say, that's what And that's what I love. That's what I love is that people that when they get to meet you, they don't know who you are, they don't know what you're about, they don't know anything. And a lot of people will come to whatever they want to come to on their conclusions, their judgments or whatever that is, and which will lead right into where we're headed with our whole entire story. So at the age of twenty nine, I'm a mom of three kids. I have two boys and a daughter, and I moved from a little city of Sioux Fall, South Dakota, to the big city of Minneapolis, Minnesota Wow. And I was recruited into a club called at that time, Solid Gold, and it is a very Las Vegas style dance club, and I decided that I wanted to go there just for a year and to take care of my family. It was fast money, it was good money, and the club was absolutely gorgeous. The people there were very it was a very high class. It wasn't your typical stripper club, and we were. Called entertainers and it was definitely very Las Vegas style. We had to dress very very nice at that time. You I had to dance on pedestals. So I was an entertainer and a dancer taking care of my three kids. That's what I was doing. And I people would ask me what I did for a living, and I would just say I was an entertainer at a nightclub and they never asked. It's like the craziest thing. I'm like, not any kind of entertainer or anything. I'm like, you know, so I like, just let that be. But that's where the lives told us come into because when people did start finding out, there was this other big judgment. Then it was you're a prostitute or this or that and all. The other things. And I'm like, you know what, even if you were, these people are doing what they had to do to take care of themselves. There's no judgment for me. And so I decided that I wanted to talk to to this group of women and men that are in here because for me, I got implants because I wanted to be my best at my job. Yeah, that is how it all started. And that was in nineteen ninety one, and at that time then I'm thirty one years old. I'd get implants and I fell right into There was a whole big thing going on with the implants too, that were it was a national yeah thing that you know, whoever came into the implants, you were on this list, so if anything happened to you, then the implants they had to take care of things. Right. Anyway, I fell into that category and nothing happened to me literally for ten years. And it was shortly after the ten years is when I finally was like, wait a minute, I've had all these different kind of symptoms and things that were happening. One thing I want to say though, before before any of that, though, is that when we decided to get implants, or we decided to get face injections and botox and all these different things, I want you to know that these are very very toxic things that we're doing to ourselves. We aren't even aware or we're in such denial about it, or it could never happen to me, or we do it because of Again, I did it for my profession. My profession, that was my business, and I did it for that reason, and other people do it too because, oh my gosh, you know, how can take. More money, I be more popular, I can build. My brand exactly exactly. And even if you're not in this industry that you know, we have to do these things because we have to keep up with the next person or the friends, or what social tells us. And back in my day, we didn't have social media. We had magazines and we had TV commercials, and we had all these things that said, hey, you got to look a certain way to be accepted. And it is even more so today I see on TikTok all the things like it just drives me crazy that you get fed in your get let into these things, and you know what, just being yourself is the best thing you can do. And I've learned that from an experience. So there's that, Yeah, you know, all of that that is so relatable. I just even, you know, our conversation last week, it was amazing just how we just connected, you know, right then and there. But I think so many of us that we can understand those feelings and motivation about wanting to be at our very best, wanting to get whatever it can to enhance whatever it is that we are doing doing ween And looking back now with all of the wisdom and experience that you gain, how do you feel about the version of yourself who made that decision then? I didn't. I really I was really in denial back then because I had heard a little bit about it and everything, and I was like, and I was that person that said it will never happen to me, and it very did happen to me. Like I all of a sudden found myself going to different doctor business for different things, like, for example, I would have like no libido, you know, so there was nothing happening with me and my husban and I did get married and we were together for a very long time. Different things just kept coming up. I'd be real withthargic or all these different things. And then it was like, well, you must be a perimenopause, or you must be a menopause or you know. I just got all these different things. And at one point my doctor put in my chart I was a hypochondriac, and I was like. No, I'm not like these are real. But in the regular physician, when you asked for tests to be taken, it doesn't show what's happening, right, well, they don't know that it's breast implant illness. They don't know any of that. And I didn't know any of that either. It wasn't until I was led into a group of fifty five thousand women at that time that I started learning that, you know, there there was this thing called breast implant illness, and I was like. What does that even mean? And then I started doing my research in this group. Started connecting with the ladies in there, and I was like, oh my gosh, what if it's true? What if this is what I have? And because it all just made sense, all the dots were connecting, and I still just didn't want to believe that though. I just really wanted to believe that. No, because I wanted to keep my mobies. Yeah, like, let's not do that. And it wasn't long after that though, that that I was like, I think I really have to do something different. So on top of all of that, my son. At this point, I have my oldest son I was sharing with Naomi. He was on a riff and he was throwing debris off and he got struck by a piece of wood had. A nail in it. Threw him over in a paralyzon from his nipples down. So I now became his caretaker. So I left my industry became my son's caretaker, and ultimately he had died, and he had died the. Day before his thirtieth birthday. So he had left me money because he wanted to take care of his mama, which I thought was very me. He said, Mommy took good care of me and want to take care of you. And so I decided that I'm going to change out my implants. Now. When I first got my implants too, That's another part of the story, which is a complete lie, is that my doctor I actually. Went to Oklahoma. I had my dealing down in Oklahoma. And when he put them in, he said, you can have these for life. You'll be fine. You don't have to worry about it, YadA, YadA YadA. And I'm like, okay, you know, I trusted it as my naghtor. And so when I decided that, I again when I was learning things that I'm thinking, Okay, it's my implants. I got my implants out and had new ones put in in twenty twelve. And when I tell you, it made I knew then it was the implants all of the symptoms that I had had that were keeping me from losing weight, I was gaining weight, I was I was choking, I was having a lot of problems choking on things, and just all these different things. When I had my new implants put in, all of that went away. M It's really crazy. And but what was even crazier though, is that when so part of the story too, I have to back up a little, Naomi, I am still nervous. Okay, you're good. You're doing amazing. I try not to do that. You are doing amazing, You really are. You are doing amazing. You Actually I'm scrolling through the questions because you answering the questions before I even answer. You're doing great. I told you was a talker. Let me let's let's just love you ask me the questions. Let me keep going on. I have to tell people too that one of the one of the. Great things that happened out of this too is like I'm the kind of person know that it took me a while, but I do find gratitude and all the things that happened and during. This that happened was my husband. Not only did my son die, but my husband had left me for a friend and our group of friends. My daughter had had a miscarriage. I had a son that was in prison and for unintentional murder. And I found out I had cancer. And the only reason I found out I had cancer was because of my husband left me. I wanted to go meet a. Guy, so I went to the doctor and the doctor was like, well, let's just let's just you know, do a pass and let's check. And found out that I was full of cancer. So my husband not left me. I would not have went because I wasn't sick. I didn't feel anything right. But what he said to me though, was interesting that he couldn't figure out why my cancer cells were on the outside of my uterus, and he said. It was very unusual, and so uh so we went ahead. He had to do a radical hysterectomy and an appendec to me and a limp a limp limp cleaning. And what he found out was is that people keep or keep kept telling me that it was the HPV virus that did it. I had two doctors and said it wasn't. My doctor was Adam, and he's said that is not what it is. And I did look that up for you, Naomi and what it is, and other people can check into it too. It was called in a demo carsonova and then a dema carcinoma in Sieda so which meant that. My my. Cells run the outside of my uterus and everything. And it wasn't the typical HPV. I can promise you now that. It was caused by my implant. But all the research that I've seen, all the research that I've gotten into, it was definitely a breast implant related. So anybody that thinks and has symptoms of any kind, like let's say plus right now too. Again, like you said, I explained it three years ago, but I'm having symptoms again, so like I have thing splashes all over, I'm having brain fog issues again, I'm having choking issues again. So I'm thinking. That my first set of implants, when they got switched or when my doctor X planted three years ago, we didn't think or and I failed to say anything about my first implants that were switched out, that I don't think. That those were proper properly. So I have remnants from before. So the heel is real and it's real. The illnesses in this are are are real, and so I been going to the doctors again. I got really really sick in December and January and I was out, like down, like I couldn't barely function, and so I started going back to the doctor again. And what they're trying to diagnose me with I was rhumatory at arthritis, which is another symptom of breast implant illness. So again all the dots are connecting and I'm like, nope, I'm not doing that. I'm not taking all these drugs either, for a lot of different things. Now, Naomi, you were telling me, let's talk about you. You're the only supposed to do the interview. I'm doing all the talking. This is how I was supposed to go, though. I have to talk about you because I've what I love about you, and when we were talking was because you are coming up on getting your implants out, and now I want, I would love for you to share what your symptoms are and everything and what made you decide that this was something that you needed to do, because I think it's really important for your people that know you and your fan base also not only like you, you do have somebody that has been there, done that. And I'm still going through it. But you're you're in your journey with this, so let's hear about you for a while. All right. So I'm gonna say this because because Shelley knew over here, yall, Shelley don't know, I tell you every day on here. So so by the time, by the time you and I have talked, I've already shared all of my symptoms and everything. Yes I do, but no, no, no, I don't. I don't. I make sure that every rock is turned that were looking up under everything, then every layer is pulled back. That is how it makes no sense for me to come and do these interviews or do this podcast and not share my story. So when we talk about Wednesday and Wednesday, I give the stage to you, beautiful ladies, to share your story because they get my story every day. Remember I'm on Monday to Frinday. But they already know my why and they know about my symptoms. But I'm going to share some of the symptoms with you that I've had brain fog, extreme migraines that they had me on medical different types of medicalcation, vertical shooting pains throughout my whole entire body where I'm disable, you know, have very disabling moments where I'm in a bed for five to six days at a time, very tired, shorter breath, I'm swelling of the leg, swelling of the arms, just like I one day i might look like a balloon balloop, you know, and then the next moment then I'm slimmed down. You know, all of these inconsistencies. I didn't get the rashs like everybody else have been getting, thank you God. But when I say say about the pains that go. Through the nerves and hitting here, you know, and you guys can't see me right now, but I'm talking about on the side of my head, like coming from my brain down. And that's why I saw a neurologist to see what was going on there. And that was all a fluke there as well. But just even understanding just going through with the medication, every medication had a side effect that was creating something else and putting more pain on what I've already had. And like you said, going back and forth with the yo yo dieting. You know, I have been a certain weight even through my three pregnancies, and I'm able to drop it like this, but now it's on After I had a baby at forty years old, you know. And and honestly that is when after I had her, and I was on baar rest that whole entire time after I had her, probably about a year later. It's really when a lot of the symptoms started happening. I couldn't drive the sun. My body was very sensitive to sun, like I couldn't be out in the sun. At all, even in the car. And I was like, what is happening to my body? And I remember going back and forth to the doctor. They were telling me, you. Know, it's I don't know, Let's send you go get some test, Let's give you some medication. You know, maybe it's pre menopausal, you know, if everything under the sun. But I'm still getting my minstrel everything is still flowing the way it is. But I was still coming up with those. Symptoms where I'm not able to work, I'm not able to do anything because I'm down. So when I started going through my spiritual journey, and I want to be at a hundred because I love what I do, so I want to be at a hundred sharing everything that I've been through. And I remembered the last time that I had went to the neurologists, and he just a fluke. I'm gonna say it again, I ain't gonna say his name, but it was something that God was telling me, like, look, I need to show you that they can't do nothing for you, that you have to take responsibility and accountability because you had put two foreign eyes in your body that's creating toxicity through you, and until you remove them, we can't connect the way that you really want us connect. You can't be in the whole completion. So for me, it was physical, but it's also was spiritual. And in that time when I decided, I didn't even think about sharing it on the podcast. I didn't think about sharing it at all until a few weeks ago when my body totally shut down. After I had a beautiful vacation come back. I'm thinking, I'm about to do a fashion show. I'm about to do this with doctor Will, were about to do a retreat. Everything and my body, my legs swoll up to where I could not walk. Shelley, I could not walk, and I'm like. What the hell? Headaches, paying vertigo. The room was spinning as I'm laying down, just everything possible to cap short breath. I couldn't even talk. So it made sure that I was not gonna work. The only thing that I was able to do was on that Monday, I had a client, and so I. Had to make sure that I matter. If I had two clients that day, the second one the internet acted up, so I couldn't even meet. With that client. But at least I met with that first client went through that I was in pain. He was like, no, you look you look great, like you're just a glow about. I'm like, like, there's really not you know. But as soon as I shut down down and I sent him over his notes for you know, for things, my body just was like. Whoo, shut me completely down. But then all the things started coming to me. You know. I was like, okay, I'm shut down for a reason. Is it's something that I'm missing? Am I moving too fast? And I remember sitting. At my altar. I remember sitting at my aunt and I was like, okay, what has happened to me? And my voice like this what is happening to me? And all I heard was that this needs to be a serious You need to change what you're doing in July, and this needs. To be a whole series and you need to speak and talk about it. And I'm like, okay, now, let's go back a little bit when I was talking to Lord Lord don Lord Gordon, when I first you know, had scheduling and stuff like that. The very first conversation. That her and I had, she was crying on the phone because she was like, you know, because the one thing that I love about doctor Sude is that he no longer does implants. He will not do it at all. And I love that about. Him because he said, I will no longer harm another woman. For profit. I would not do it anyway. Now that I know better, I have to do better. And even in him speaking with me and talking to me, it's like, you're in good hands. I'm going to make sure that you are. Comfortable and you love what you look like when we're done, because I know why women come to me in the first place, you know, And that that sat with me, and it sat in my soul in the way that it came about. I had two appointments with two other doctors, you know, that same week, and I went to one and he was. Like, well, you know, he showed me these pictures and it was just oh my god, it was just so horrible as looking at them, and like he was like, well, you know, I had a lady come back. She took them out, and she came back in two years, and I just put them back in. When you know what it does to women, you wouldn't think that you would do your best to make sure they they look good, at least to them, because you know what they're going through. No, and right there that told me, no, doctor sud I shouldn't even came here. I just wasted my time. But I know I committed to going to that consultation, so let me do that. And as soon as matter of fact, I was in the car and I called LRD, said okay, book me. Me and then that was it. And I knew that it was all divine time, and I knew that was supposed to happen. But going back to the altar fast forward. That alreadplayed in my hand, and I said, no, this is where I need to be doing this. And my prayer was always to be connected to women somehow, How can I be to a service to women? You understand what I'm saying. Most of when women see me. A lot of women are intimidating because of what my past career was you know what I'm saying, sometimes women can't look past that to even hear the message that they already siding. And I'm not saying all women, but I'm saying some. And I know that I know God uses me not just to witness to men, but also witness to women as well. And I made a choice in my life and my career coming from insecurity, coming from wanting to. Build a career off of beauty. It ain't nothing wrong with that. Let me say that, it ain't nothing wrong with that. I'm not being trying to shame anybody, but I also have to take accountability of the choices and the decisions that I made. And in that case, if the. Platform that I've grown and that was built on my booze, I thank them for that, But also I have to be responsible with my platform too and say, you know what, they're not good. They're not good for me. And I'm like you, I went quite a few years. Without having anything going on, anything going on when I went and got my second set of implants. That is when I started to see things after I had my baby, and it could have been something before and I just you. Know, but now I'm paying attention. I'm move aware of what my body is and what it's not and what's no longer serving me, you know. And so when I said, Okay, this is what I'm gonna do. I'm starting off this. You know, this little series, and then it was like, no, you need to create a whole podcast for it. And so in January that's what I'm going to do after I heal. After ID heal. And you know, I already told you I want you back, you know, to come on the show then, but that this is a part of my calling, this is a part of my purpose. How can I talk about self love when I have two form objects in my body that was a part of me so called loving myself? Does that makes sense? So it does? Yeah, yeah, and absolutely does that. That's a problem that I have too, even with with the with the network marketing industry, when I have these women who are so stuffed full of botox and all the things and talk to me about health and I'm like, no, as I'm sitting over here, my face literally is falling and I can't get it off. I'm like, because I had to go into surgical menopause like super quickly, I didn't even realize that menopause actually is a whole life time thing. I thought, you know, once you get through it and you do all the things. No, no, it's not like that. And what's happened too is since just like you what you were talking about with brain fog and everything, I remember standing at the grocery store, I parked my car in the same spot. I'm a creature of habit and I could not tell you where I parked my car, and I was like, Okay, that was the moment that I knew too, that there's something way wrong here. And it was with my second set too that it just got even worse, and it was it was just crazy. But now I'm sixty five years old, and thank you. This last year though, especially the last six months, as I've noticed again with all these other symptoms like coming back, like I literally like my face and everything is just like I have aged dramatically, and that is another part of And yes I'm sixty five, Yes I'm in metapause all these things, but I've always been like you said, I have had three kids too, and like I was actually thinner before I had my kids or after I have before, So I've. Always been able to just come back really quickly from any any. Kind of anything that I've ever endured. And this has been the biggest challenge of my life. And same with you. I've gained so much weight no matter what I've done. I have tried fasting, I've tried different products, I've done this, I've done that, and it won't budge in my doctor that I have now, who's a lady doctor and I'm doing women just like a lot of woman doctor. And I've gone through all this explaining everything to her. She's actually doing research on learning about breast and planting illness because she didn't even know. I said, as long as you know when you're learning, and you can do this with me, will be great. If you can, I get to go somewhere else because I need someone that knows that this is actually a real deal. And so she's been really really good about that. But I agree, if you don't have some kind of connection with who you're talking to, you about this and this is and this. Is the problem. When I started talking to I've had six girls in this industry that I've explanted. I have another one of my. Friends that's explanting who's not in the industry. But she heard about my story and she's like, oh my gosh, Shelly. She's like, I like you, Naomi. She's like down, She's like, I can't function. I got brain fog, I got this, I got that. And I said, girl, I swear I think you have breast of my illness. Now. I talked to Naomi about this last week too. Is the group that I was put in. It was really good till it wasn't. I learned a lot of things about the lady that has this group, and I had to get I actually got kicked out, which was a good thing. Another good thing, but when I left that group, there was one hundred and sixty thousand women in that group. Oh wow. So I have to tell you, ladies that we are not all wrong. So if you're thinking, oh, that could happen to me, I'm telling you, yes it can. And I have a girlfriend too, who she has Graves disease. I didn't even know she had. Implants and I said, I said the same thing to her. I said, are you sure? And I told her a little bit about breast and mylat illness and she just wasn't open to hearing it. And but Graves, she got diagnosed with Graves disease, and Graves disease is an autoimmune deficiency. I think with my illness, like there's just so much, Like the list is like profoundly long, and there are so many groups. You can go on Facebook and you can just put in breast. Yeah, it will take you to so many groups that will blow your mind. Yeah, your mind. Yeah, you know. It's so funny. When I interviewed Laura last week and we were talking, she was like, let me tell you something. I'm going to be honest. Every group is not for you. She said, every group. You will go into those groups and people will truly scared, scared a hell you. She didn't stay scared of hell out of you, but I knew what she meant about scared the hell out of you, you know, because they will, you know, a lot of people will come in anonymously and just you know, throw different things to try to throw you off. And I'm just being honest because. When you're going into here, you're looking for you're looking for an answer to why you're going through what you're going through. And so when you go into these groups, you're looking for someone who is familiar to you. Where you can resonate that look that might not look like you, but look like you, if that makes sense. Yes, when you start to see all of the symptoms and you start to see like, wow, wait I go through ooh that maybe that's it, you know, maybe that is what's going on with my body. Trust and believe it. There is several different beautiful. Women that I know that are friends of mine that have either went through something and did not want to think that it would be I brest impact illness, and some that say, if it is, then I don't care because I don't want to lose these you know. Yeah, And it's so unfortunate because it's like, and this is an honest question, it's like, what do we do with them? How can we. You know, have them remove them? And I know it's a new technique now I got to do a lot more research on it. But we're the fat transfer, you know, Is that more healthier than the implants alone? You know? I don't want to say, because that was my first notion. It's like, well, just just do the fat transfer, But then again, I don't know if that's as safe as the implants. You know, even though it's your own you know, your own fat, your own body going into another. Part of your body. Has that anything that you thought about or even refer that to anyone that you've spoken with? So interestingly enough, I'm the fat transfer to it. You have to have the right doctor for that too. So I learned from a doctor I. Wish I could remember his name. He is from California and he is a very high profile doctor. Same thing. He stopped doing implants for the same thing you were talking about, and I'm wondering if it isn't the same doctor, I could be wrong, but he stopped doing implants too, and he does do fat transfer, and he talked about the technique like unbelievable, and I was like, okay, well that makes sense. And then you have other doctors though they're just literally putting your fat transfer cells into your breast and just basically letting us sit there. That's not how it works, Like you literally have to put these cells in or the fat transfer inside your cells. Like he was very detailed about it, and I was like, oh my gosh, I would never have never have known that. So there's a process for that too. So every single. Thing that we do that we feel is enhancing ourselves you had better do your clinical research. Like And that was the thing too. When I got my implants, I didn't research it. You know. What my research was was the girls that I was surrounded with. Oh, I love your boobs, I love yours, I love yours, who did yours? Who did yours? And then my dad, of all people, my dad has his friend had this doctor down in Oklahoma who that's all they did for all the women down in. The Southern states that were in the industry. So my Dad's like, you got to go to him, and I did, and he did a beautiful job. I came back and I was like, oh my gosh, you. Know, we can't go to Oklahoma, you know, but I mean that that was my research. And then just one thing led to another, and now though I'm like, okay, so this is this is why we are having this conversation, Naomi, because this is. What we have. I really feel too. I really wanted to start this two while ago, I told you the story. About my girlfriend Laura going to Laura too. So Laura and I were in the industry together to Laura was super sick, like on her deathbed, Naomi couldn't get out of bed there's I mean literally couldn't and every time she eats she'd throw up, like all these things. And so Laura and I did the same thing. We had a few different doctors that we that we were talking to, and she found doctor Cayenne for us, and doctor Cayenne, though does do breast implants. However, she was in a group, the group that I got kicked out of, and was learning about breast ex plants breast and plant illness, and so when we went to her, she was very empathetic with us, and even though I knew she still did implants, she was definitely very concerned for both of us, and we both went so we both. Had our surgeries a week apart from each other. It was crazy, and they actually called me to see if they could get Laura in before me, because they really didn't think Laura. Was going to make it. So people that underestimate what breast iplant illness can do. There are stories after stories after stories. Naomi is one of them. On just completely. Bedridden and it paralyzes you, like its literally paralyzed. Your body is full of toxins, and where does it go, Like it just starts attacking you from the inside out basically, and so we're here. That's why we're here having this conversation is to bring. Awareness to it, just like with breast cancer, and it just caused breast cancer too, like I said, it caused uterine cancer for me. You know, there's all these different things. If you don't think it can't cause alzheimer and dementia to it treats those symptoms are treated as if they were dementia Alzheimer's. That's what my doctor was trying to tell me too, And I said, no, absolutely, and I'm I'm not going. To go with you on that one. Yeah. Then that's when I went and got my implants out and then everything was great until, like I said, just this last year and then all of a sudden, things are happening again. I'm like, oh, come on, you know, but again, I feel like even going through what I'm going through right now at sixty five years old, is to bring awareness to others that it's an only thing it can be. Laura though she's doing fantastic, she has no symptoms. She's doing wonderfully. She's like lost like fifty pounds, like she's she's amazing. She's a massage therapist and she too grounds herself really really well. And so this has just been an incredible journey well really for all of us. And so Naomi, I seriously am just so looking forward to what's happening you with you when you get your ex plants and in your heal healing jery haaling journey and the heal is real. That's our logo, that's our that's our slogan, and the heel is real. Clear it's not going to be all PGPT. It might be, but you know, but there but there. Are implications for everything, and and that's what I love about what Naomi is doing too, is to bring awareness to all sides of it and yes, to get to you back to your point too. On. Let me tell you what the biggest thing for me when I got my implants out was. Hugging my family like heart to heart. I will take the eighty biddies any day just to feel that again, because before it was like my big old chest. And even though mine were seriously like nice and coachy, squishy, not the normal like there's a lot of them that too, will get hard after time because they're calcified. There's like all kinds of things that happened to them too. Just being able to have that heart to heart made all the difference in the world for me, Like that that's lidified my every being. Like I loved being to the little itty biddies now just then, so I really feel like you have to figure out and find out and for this million times, and I was like, wow. It really is your why. It's like the second that I got it, like nothing no matter what my chest looked like, no matter what happened, no matter what they had to do. Like first of all, I was like I wanted my brain back. That was the first and foremost, Like, just give me my brain back. I want to know where I parked my are I want to know that my keys are, you. Know, in my hand and not a refrigerator. I want to know that at that time I had too little puppies. But my guys want to make sure that I made sure I got them back in the house because like I had to keep checking and it was like see me, like okay, they're in the house, They're in the house. And then I had to start writing everything down and then I had to check it like yep, okay. I did do that. I did do that. So it is. It is very very real and it's very very scary. So just know that you are not alone, and we are here to support you, and we are here to help you in your journey. And like you always got, I always got the lady in the bathroom, like Laura is amazing. Go wrong with. Laura, Yeah, yes she is. So I want to go back. I just want to go back just a little bit too. After you had your surgery, after the X plan, walk me through what that felt like in what, let's say the first six months, let's just say the first how did you feel from there? Was the symptoms going automatically or what did it take a moment in some time for them to go away? So interesting enough, Laura, I can speak for Laura too, And and I told you to. I actually was gonna send you a link and I forgot to send you the link. I actually found it. We did. I did an interview with Laura on what happened with us since on. My YouTube channel and Laura immediately, like within like right after surgery, she was. Like, Shelly, my eyes are right anymore. I can see the whites of my eyes. And I'm thinking, Laura, you just got full of ivy fluid like you're hydrated. Of course I aren't gonna be white, but they really were white. Like the red ness in her eyes did go away, and she like literally felt amazing, Like immediately, does that happen to everybody? No, sometimes it does take a while. So with me, I did notice too. Right away my memory where you like came back like at eighty percent. I was like yes. And then with that moment too, I was like the clarity. I was like, okay, it really is the implants. Like I got my memory back. And then just different things started coming back together too. And one of the things too. That that boggles my mind, and it's just me, is all the fear that comes around having your ex plants. And I'm like, but you got them put in, like you have surgery. All of a sudden, surgery is this big fear like they don't want to go under, they're not going to come back out. And I'm like, but you went into surgery and had them put in, So I'm like, that's that's really boggles. Me and I and that's just my honesty about that. For me, I was like, I'm going to get these things out like I might and again, my wife was, I just want to feel good. I want my brain to work. So I was. I was fortunate too that doctor Cayenne had us, had us. We we actually had the bags like we had. We had the bags and everything and we were wrapped and everything in that work. There are some doctors that don't believe in it, and others. Are like, and I'm going to tell you right now, I do not ever go to a doctor that says, we'll just give you a local. No, you you have surgery. You need to get a whole and black capsulectomy. You get all of that junk out of you. That's you have to do that. It's very, very important. So for me, the journey was was not that hard. They say six weeks, you know, don't lift your arms, don't do this, don't do that. It really depends on you. And so that was the other thing too in the group that and this is this is the other thing that you still continue to compare yourself to others. Stop doing that. Stop doing that, because how. You live, how you eat, how you how all the things you are completely different than somebody else. So you're so your recovery is going to be completely different than the other person, and then somebody will say, well, that didn't work for me, and you said no, no, no, no no no. They said it. Because it worked for them does not mean it's going to want to work for you. So everybody's journey is going to be different. However, the whole, the end goal though, is that we are all in it together. Yeah, we're here to support you, to know that you know what. All these fears that you have are real and they're they're acknowledged. I hear you, I see you, and I understand that you know. But I just want you to get healthy. I want you to get these things out and to live your life like I'm sixty five, Like we could go any day. It doesn't matter our age, it does not matter. But what I want to do is I want to live a long, long life. I still want like ten twenty years ahead to me, and I don't want. To die along life and with implants in So to your point, Naomi, when you talk about the women who are like they're more afraid of what they look like than how they're going to feel. So they'll keep these toxic bags in, but it will devastit. I'm gonna I'm. Gonna call out someone right now on that. And I'm like Wendy Williams when simply started in the beginning, I said, oh my gosh, I go it's goott. And she just kept getting bigger and bigger implants and the bigger they got, this sicker she was getting and there was a bunch of us women that were trying to get to her, her publicists and whoever is say get those out of her out because then she was diagnosed with all these things. And I'm like her feet same as you Naomi talking about her legs were swelling up. She had to come on stage with with different shoes, right, they work, And next thing you know. She's drinking. Well, of course she's drinking. She's feeling like. She is on the pain to erase the pain. Yeah, the pain and implants caused major depression, like because of these chemicals that. Are going they're all throughout your body. And to this very day, I still believe that if they would get those implants out of her and healing, she would be just fine. Yeah too, Just when you just said that, that's just say ding ding ding that really it was just a ding ding ding. For me, Like, oh wow, yeah, absolutely right. Wow, wow, yeah, I got one more time. Yeah, I got one more important question for you, and it's personal. What does your body feel like? Now? I know that you said that you know. You you still you know, feeling some things and you know that can kind of came back. So I want I want you to explain, is it like the first time or is it more on a milder type of feel that you have right now? And has your relationship with your body changed? Oh? So for me yes, because I'm having symptoms again, it definitely has changed. But again, like you said, you to Olivia, you know what's going out with your body. So I know that there's some it's got to be from the first implants. It has to be. And I just know that I didn't and give doctor Cayenne all of the specs on that, so that is not her fault that that didn't happen. I needed to be more clear about those things. So but as far as like my brain and everything, though, I still I have moments again right now, and again it's just because I know that I just have to go back to her and we just need to go through things. I've got to call Laura Dawn, like something's got to happen. Definitely not as bad, absolutely not. But knowing though that it is breast and plant illness related though, I have comfort in that. That's beautiful. That's the thing. I have comfort in that knowing that that's what it is that I don't have. Like I said, one doctors trying to tell me I have rum and toward arthritis. Well, that's probably true, but as I know where it's coming from, and this is the other this is the other side of doctors is like I get, I get. I'm infuriated with doctors that treat the symptoms. I don't want to figure out where the source is because it's coming from somewhere. You don't just get these things, any kind of illness that comes from somewhere. What is the source? And so when I tell them that as president plant illness, they all look at me. Because they don't know, and they don't know what they don't know. It's just like it's like them trying to tell you about nutrition when they've only had six weeks. And that's very true. Their whole doctor, you know, degree they only know six weeks of nutrition. I know more new about nutrition from my network marketing companies than I do from my doctors, so and again from other people. So you got to ask yourself to like what and who is your group, Like who do you hang out with the most? What is it that you do you and what do you know the most? Then take that a step further and say, okay, you know what I learned this from so and so, And like you said in the beginning, to be opened open your heart, like let it be a flower, be open to the things it's be open to learning something new so that you can lies told us, stop believing all the things that people tell you, and you take it to heart. Believe that because every belief that we have is it can be broken. Yeah, and we can be and we can be led to believe something different. And breast and plant illness is no different. And that's where my heart hurts for people. And I get it. There are some women that end up with breast cancer and they end up totally having I've seen them, you know, just totally flat chested. You know, I got awful scars. Like my heart hurts for them. And at the same time, though I'm like thinking, oh my god, though your life was spared, but because we have we are so conditioned to think that we have to have boobs or we have to you know. Again, I do too, like given coming here, like come on man, like my chees are hanging on here, you know, but I. Want to go up? Is that all? Say? My face is fallen? But I can't get so silly? You is so stilly? But I do I have one more question? I know I said that I have one more question because I want to. I want to tap into your wisdom that you have gained through this whole experience. What will you tell a woman who. Is considering expert surgery but it's still on the fence. Do it? Just do it? Like, just make that decision. It is a decision. And again you're there is over again. One group was one hundred and sixty thousand women. I moved to another group I absolutely love and there's hundreds in there. And again though you can go to you can put brest in in Facebook that all these groups come up. Google it rerest in playing illness like you will find. Talk to Naomi. She's got she seriously has great connections. I'm telling you don't waste your time on thinking and thinking and thinking, research and research and re searching because all the research too, is on Facebook. You can find it all, all of it, like without question, without a doubt, it's there. And there's also another lady. She is a co founder. I had to bring this up too because she's amazing. Her name is. Robin Taut TWT. She's actually a co founder of the Global Advocacy Coalition and it's called Gpacunited dot org. That's g AS and go PS and paul Acunited dot org. And she has advocated so hard for us that she was one of the women to that actually got the black box warnings put on FDA. Approved for present plants. So it is a big deal. So you can go onto that website and you will find all kinds of regulations and stuff. You'll find the poisons that are in silicone. Oh. That was another thing Naomi and I talked about too, that people have a misconception that oh, minor gummy or minor saline or mineor whatever. No, every single implant out there has to have a silicon lining because it has to be able to hold it in all of that. So every single implant has a toxins and the all business. It's not just one in particular. So but you'll hear more about silicon than anything else because that was the thing that started all of it. There's a big thing that started all in a big band on it and everything. Because honestly, when I first got my implant, they were sailing and I thought that I was a okay, But then my second implants were the silicon, And in the interview that I had with Lord, she let me know, no, the sailine is just a toxic as the silicon was, and I was just, you know, flabbergasted, like wow, wow, But you know what, we are coming to the end of this, and I want to say to you, miss Shelley, that I am so so deeply grateful for you, just your vulnerability, your courage, and just your willingness to just share your storage is so openly. You are truly on the front lines of this and I thank you, I truly thank you just for just your honesty and your authenticity and even sharing your story and saying, well, right now I'm getting, you know, feelings on those symptoms again, but now I know where it comes from. But also taking accountability. I didn't tell my doctor everything. You know what I'm saying, and if anything, people when you go into the doctor's office, be honest about what's going on with your body. For me, everything that happened with my body, I said on my phone, I write a note on my phone what did happened? What time? So when I go in there, let the doctors know, this is what's happening to me. You understand what I'm saying. And don't let them gas like you don't. Please, don't let them and I know we use gas like like, don't let them say, oh, it's gonna be all right. No, no, be your own advocate. You know, if you have to switch over to another doctor, didn't do so, like she said, those groups, there's so many different groups out there that has the knowledge and can you can find where a doctor is in your neighborhood or in your city. And if you have to go take a bus ride or try and ride at somebody else, that's an investment in you. When I saw the when I saw how much that it would cost for me, and that my insurance would not cover it. And I'm going to tell y'all how much it's fourteen thousand dollars, fourteen thousand dollars for my whole thing. And I remember sitting in the beginning, I was like, oh, and then I thought about it. No, I want to feel well. I want to be able to enjoy my children. I want to be able to enjoy my grandchildren. I want to be able to travel the. World and speak and teach people about self love and help people. I want to do this. I want to be at one hundred and I know what a one hundred is and I want to be back at one hundred. And for me to do that, I need to take out these things because they ain't doing nothing for me. People can't see them anyway. They Lovesata right now. I'm not showing them anyway. But what I'm saying is too. Is that truly? And when I say this, Lady's and I know y'all said, Naomi, But I'm gonna be flat Chesters. I'm gonna be Let me tell you something. I did so much stuff when I was flat Chester. I tell you I read faster, I jumped higher. Yes, yes, there really is so many benefits. I love it. I was able to wear some really cute tops and all that other stuff. And I have to worry about having people on boot watch. You got to have the people on the boot watch and go out to the club and you moved too much and. Did the boot fly, which I know what I mean. I know you're like, Naomi, this is not funny, but you know, we have to find humor. We have to find something good about this, because one thing is I don't want to do I don't want to shame anyone, and I don't want to shame myself or embarrassment because these are choices of us growing. Yeah, we were grown. I was thirty when you were well, you know, but this is what we do. And we cannot blame I can I can say I can blame you know on this, on. This and this, but I had to give the choice and that was the choice I made. But also this is another choice that I have. You do too. So if you are sitting there and you do have in princi and you have been thinking about it, and you're thinking about the money issue, this is an investment in you. This is an investment in your health, This is an invest in your future. This is an investment in your children and your grandchildren and everything that goes after that. It is an invest man an investment, all right. So there's something that we started to do just so this month only from beginning we do a closing out of meditation. So right now, if you all can just close your eyes for this moment so we can we can exit out on a positive note. All right now, place both hands on your heart and take three deep breaths in and want to fuel your heart beating steadily faithfully. It's keeping you alive and strong. Now send gratitude to your body for all that it has carried, all that it has endured, and all that it. Continues to do for you each day. Thank your body for its wisdom, for the signal it sends to you, for its incredible capacity to heal and regenerate you. Now ask your boutty, now what do you need me to know? What wisdom do you have for me? And listen with your whole being to whatever arises. Maybe it's a message about rest or movement, or maybe it's encouragement about a decision that you're facing, and maybe it's a simple reminder of how loved and supported that you are. But whatever you receive, hold it with gratitude. Your body is your greatest ally, your wisest teacher, and your most faithful companion. Say to your body now, I trust you, I honor you. I choose to listen to your wisdom, love and respect. Take one more deeper then, and carry this commitment into your day, and when you are ready, gently open your eyes. All right again, my beautiful people, thank you. This has been such an amazing and amazing shell. Thank you so much again, Shelley. Do you have any last words for our listeners today? Well, first of all, again, I'm very honored to be here and to share this story. And I stopped sharing my story for a while, so it was a god thing for me too that I ended up with you in an interview last weekend to be on this podcast. And I know without a doubt that our stories to definitely impact others. And just to know that you are not alone. You're not alone, and to if you're in that place of just feeling like you said, shame or whatever it is, we have all felt it and just like go that just for a moment and just make the decision to jump in and ask somebody to even help you in your journey because we're here for you to support you and love you. Yes, beautiful, thank you, thank you, And again, my beautiful people, you know this week I did you know I always give y'all like a little homework or something like this, So I want you to do something for me. I want you to practice deeper listening with your body. If each morning you ask yourself, how how are you feeling to day? How am I feel today? What do I need each evening? Acts what am I grateful for? And what did I learned today? If Shelley's story has resonated with you, please share this episode with someone who might need to hear it. You're sharing it could be the bridge that helps another woman find her courage or feel less alone in this journey. And remember, whether you're facing a major health decision or just simply learning to trust yourself more. Deeply, you are not alone. There's a community of women who have walked before you, who are walking beside you, and who. Are cheering you on. So trust your journey, trust your body's wisdom, trust the courage that lives within you. You are more powerful than you know. So until next time, kid, listening to your inner voice and remember that every step toward authenticity is a step toward for you. Again, have an amazing, amazing day, have a good one. 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