Finding Joy Through Creative Outlets: Unleashing Your Creative Identity" - Mindset Monday

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Here Ariel host Naomi Banks, and I'm truly excited that you are here to kick off a brand new month of inspiration, healing, environ expression. You know, this month we're diving into the theme that truly speaks to the heart of self love and personal transformation. We're calling this creativity and expression. It's all about finding joy through creative outlets and reconnecting with those soulful expressions as part of ourselves that may have been pushed aside, and to help us guide through this first mindset. Mother, you know who it is. Doctor Will Washington will be joining us in a moment, right right, So let's do this. Let's take a quick break, and when we come back, we're gonna bring the will to the stage, all right, Ishraghurty, got is Dumber Branks Hell on this season and Steff Love Podcast, and we'll be right back. Washington wells into two focuses on healing. Always for me, if I look good, then I feel good. If I feel good, then I share the good. 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Look me just glowing and shining all right? Pink lemonade. That's what I'm loving. I'm loving it. It's time. It's pink lemonade season. Yeah, I like that. I like that? All right? So you are you ready for this? I know you are because you ain't nothing but creativity and joy is all. This my bag, This is my bag. I am black boy joy and walking for him. This is it? So yeah, like this this is what I do. This is what I do? All right? Beautiful, all right, my beautiful listeners. Right now, you know how we do it. Let's just ground ourselves before we get into the topic. Your hand, all right, so if you're taking moment right now and just close your eyes and get it comfortable. All right, close your eyes. I want you to take a deep breath through your nose and hold it for a moment. Now. I want you to repeat that again. I want to do it slowly inhale in. And as you inhale in, I want you to feel the creative energy that is flowing through your body. Yes, feel it like it's the light of sunlight filling the room. And as you exhale, I want you to exhale any doubts or any fears about your ability to create. I want you to let them melt away with any with every breath. Now, as you breathe in again, I want you to breathe in creativity and breathe out doubt. And I want you to remember this that you are creative, being that you are inspired, and then you are enough. So when you are ready, gently open your eyes. All right, my beautiful people. If you're new here to the Season and Stephaler podcast, this is something we do every day Monday, through Friday, just to ground us before we get into the top of the ham. All right, doctor, were you ready, Yes. Let's start talking about it. Why. Why is creative expression a very powerful too for our journey and self love and what's going on mentally and emotionally and even spiritually when we allow ourselves to create. Yeah. So the most exciting thing about this is that creating is our first form of identity. Right when we're becoming ourselves, when we're learning who we are, we're going through the world world not really understanding like when you can about the womb. You don't understand oppression, you don't understand taxes, you don't understand bills, don't understand money. You don't all you have is relationship, and and through relationship you start creating things. And so it's amazing how when we think of creativity, I'm not thinking about being artistic. I'm not just thinking about it's the learning how to express yourself and how people receive that and how you give that. And so creativity is the first relationship we learn that identifies who we are. So, you know, I think it's so important to talk about this because this is a foundation for development, and this is also a foundation for self discovery and healing. So this is like step one, and a lot of us miss this because we forget this as adults, that our creativity is our identity. Yeah, you know what I love is I love how therap peutic it can be when we talk about mentally, emotionally and spiritually, and I want to just go back to the spiritual side. Was listening to Bioproctor earlier this week and he was saying something about about being how we God is creative and sometimes we look outside of ourselves to find the God and we don't be as creative as we're supposed to. So if we're supposed to be made in that image of Him, why don't we connect and hooked and allow our creativity to take us further in life, whether that be mentally, emotionally, spiritually. You know what I'm saying, instead of us just being and I don't want to say one trick pony, but you know what I'm saying, just one sighted and just like here, instead of allowing our thoughts and our emotions become creative, you know where it just you know that we don't have a limit to any of our thoughts, patterns, and it just goes. Because why I feel like this because creativity is in so many things. It's love. It's love, you know, it can be hate too, but it's love, it's wit, you know what I'm saying, It's artistry, it's so many different things. If you truly tap in to your creative being. Yeah, now I love that you said that, because there is a space where in your healing process, even when even just in being in love, right, you become more creative. The best romance is the most creative romance. Right. The things that make us pause in all ourselves is the thought, the intentions of the creativity that's actually happening. And so for me, when I look at creativity from a mental health perspective, I'm thinking about, how do you offer yourself the space to be open? How do you offer yourself the space to be heard? How do you offer yourself the space to be vulnerable and committed to the path of your feelings? That is the creativity. And some people do it through art to expression and do relationship. But you learn that the person that becomes the most creative, they do not limit themselves, right, They now hold themselves back. Yeah, So how do we you know, This is something that I wanted to talk about next week about the block is. But let's kind of dip into that a little bit right now, because a lot of people think they need permission to be creative. People always think that being creative is a gift or they have to be perfect. You understand what I'm saying. When you think of creativity, you think of dance, you think of music, you think of painting. That is what people think about. They don't think about using the things around them for a creative imagination to allow you to take something further. That. Yeah, and I'm not to be funny, but there's a reason why I do partore and when I do free running, you know, it's you know, I could just jog down the street. I really could. I could just jog down the street, but my body just doesn't let me do that. If I jog down the street, I alstot thinking about the oven, like that's in the oven, off, that that's in the microwave, off, Like what time does that that put the ice in the freezer. I think about all this stuff, and when I'm doing Parker, it's I look at the same path I would jog now, but think about how can I express movement from this path to this path? And it sounds crazy sometimes, but to be able to look at something normal and to find yourself in it right the creative how to enslage yourself. You can implement yourself into that moment that is a beautiful moment of focus, expression, and creativity, happy at the same time, because those three things are very different, but they all need each other. Yeah, you know, as you're saying that, this reminds me of my mother. So let me say this. I've shared with the audience all the time. You know, all the time that my mom was, you know, diagnosed with dimension. You know, you think certain things that they ain't got their right mind or whatever. My mama got all of her mind. So when we go out, whether we're walking in a park or whether we're riding in a car, she will look at different things like the clouds, and she is creating so many different images that she see that I might not can see. So that is how tapped into her creativity that she has. And I think, I truly believe that people do not understand how powerful just being steel even when we meditate, Even when we meditate in that moment we are in we are creative. So even when we do the guided meditation, we actually just guiding them to open up their mind to be creative to where you're being or where you want to be, whether it's peace, whether it's as a solace or whatever it is. But I just I share that is because no matter what it is that you are going through in life, you can be creative and you can be expressive in that. Yes, And I think being expressive in that requires you letting go, especially with people that have like depression, Right, you're holding onto something that no longer helps you move forward. Right, You're at an emotional impasse. People that deal with anxiety, they're focused on the what if of life? You know, people that deal with a major depressive disorder. Right, Having that ideation and at times of life threatening ideation, you know, you have to relearn about giving yourself the chance to live? Well, how can we What does living look like from a creative perspective? Right? What does living look like from a creative perspective? Because many of us are forced to perform in the world that we live in, and so we feel like we don't have chance or choice and we feel limited by that. So I even think about just like, what is it that will give you the creative lifestyle that you may not be offering yourself at this moment. It's a great way to start start that process. Yeah, you know, can I can? I I want to. And it's not a challenge. I promise you it's not a challenge. But what would that creativity look like for meaning? M And I guess I want to make sure the understanding is that you don't have to be talented for creativity. And I think that's you know, you understand what I'm saying. I think that's what you're. When you're bad at it, When you're bad at it, Yes. But I want I want to make sure that the listeners understand that creativity doesn't mean that you are Picasso or you are Beyonce or you you know what I'm saying is that that with creativity or you were just this this great amazing writer. You know, sometimes it's just taking those things that are that bring influencing your life. You know, whether it's a color you know, like you right now you rock and lemonade pink, you know right now that is creativity for you because it influenced something different in your life. You know what I'm saying, So it's like taking that to bring that forward. So maybe that can help you to understand what creativity looks like for you, and I guess that's what I want. It's kind of like list kind of layers back on. Yeah, being creative and being able to express that. Yeah, yeah, that's that's a beautiful question. Answer. That is a challenging question. And that's a good question too, because because we can break it down so like to me, I see five layers simply. So the first layer is understanding your intention. A lot of us don't understand our intentions towards the things that we do. And even when I work with Grammy Award winning nominating artists when they have their burnout, we focus on intention. They lost their intention, right, Like these people at this high level of performance are also having the same burnout as someone that just started drawing, right, So it's it's the same energy. So first intention, then you peel that back. The second one is options and limitations. How are you giving yourself the option to be present in that creative process and how much are you limiting yourself? Many times we don't allow our options and our limitation to see each other. So I mean, we're like, I'm limited, I'm limited, I'm limited, but you're not focusing on your options, right, And you puel that back as the opportunities are you giving yourself the opportunity. A lot of us do not present ourselves the opportunity or relative the opportunity that's actually present because of insecurity, fear, think about other people, feel like when which goes to the fourth one, it's self concept. Do I understand who I am? And do I understand why I'm going through what I'm going through? Sometimes you have to just sit, like you said, be still and sit and really understand what you're really going through. Many of us just feel it and then we just kind of run through it all and just you know, work through it all, burnout and you know it's not conducive to healing. And then lastly, healing is a lifestyle. So that's my philosophy. And I say that intentionally because of this exact purpose, because when you make healing a lifestyle, I'm not the trauma that I went through. I have to live my life with my healing. So live my life with that healing of knowing that I'm healing and I'm knowing moving on, I have to be creative in the lifestyle of healing that I'm choosing. So the autonomy is something that's so empowering. So yeah, I would. I would if I hit those five things. That's really when I say be creative, I mean, be all those five things before you're creative. Yeah, yeah, m hm. I love that. I do. I love that. As you see, I'm shaking my head, you know, because in the beginning of this year, you know, even though I you know, I had a plan exactly on how everything was gonna be. You know, I'm one of these high level of people, but I had to be still in moments and be like, Okay, hold on, I know what your intentions are, but do you remember your intentions? And that's when you have to go into that inner person of yourself, you know, when you have to really tap in and be like, Okay, are those intentions still there, because let's be honest, sometimes those intentions could. Change mm hmm, and they do and they do every time, and depending on the people you're around, the people they like. I'm not trying to be funny, but I don't like being around non creative people. That's and I'm not saying that people are bad, but it's just man. The language is different, the intention is different. The way the way they even eat juice, drink juice like they just they just they're just different. They're different and it's that and you see them even it's just the way that they dress, right. It contributes to your creativity. Everything is an inspiration if you're willing to look at it and you want to receive it. Everything is an inspiration if you if you have it in you, and that's what makes it. It's such a beautiful experience. I love that you said that, and why I love that you said and why I giggle because just this morning I said, you know what, I need to stop talking to this person. You know what I'm saying. It's just like and I promise you I'm not being mean at all. But when you when you are constantly sitting in your awareness and you you constantly like, okay, hold on, that's a little bit that you are apart. Where is this, where what is coming in between? What is coming from this talking in this relationship? You know what? I like spending days and hours or whatever talking to this person in your mum. Hum, I'm not I'm not trying to be funny. But today also had that moment. I was like, I learned the pace of my piece. I've learned what I've learned my pace, Like I know my rhythm. Now, I know my rhythm and when people make me question or or turning away from the rhythm, I know I'm supposed to be having in my day. You get that's it. Normally I'd be like, oh, you got five more strikes. It's okay, No, we get you get two strikes, one because I'm giving you a chance, and the second time because this is me learning you. This is me learning myself. I'm learning myself at this point. And I can still be cool with you. We could still be, but I'm not going to make an effort to make time. I'm not going to make an effort to open up the same way I was before because I learned my pace and I don't like when people take me out of my pace. That's the thing, you know. And we just went through that today. We just did that today, and I mean you both locked in. We did work. Yes, and I asked you two questions. All it's done, and it was done. That was a creative process. That was a creative process. We figured it out. We sure did it with boom boom boom. Them emails were sent. Wepposed to do it after the podcast. We didn't even decide. We didn't even decide. We just did it. That's like mine. But you have to be around your people. Yeah, you have to around the people that inspire you to be yourself. We are around so many people that are not inspiring us to be ourselves and then typically just challenging us based up on who we are. Yeah, being challenged for who you are is not the same as being creatively inspired by somebody put a different energy. Don't close to Ooh you know last month, remember we talked about mask on, mask off, right, this is a part of that. This is a part of that. Oh no, I forgot about that. Oh I go there, Okay, say more. This is a part of that, you know, because a lot of times when you can't see your creative being you're at all is because going back to just your surroundings and the people that you are with it, it doesn't help you to tap into that because they don't have that. Everybody is walking around with a mask and trying to be something more for one another, you know, whatever. That more is for one another. So no one's showing up as the authentic self. But if you can really sit and embrace that you are a creative being in that creation. There is no perfection to it. It is no perfection to it. Oh I'm so glad you said this, because I didn't realize I was a creative I was a creator. I didn't realize that girl. So I just thought, Oh, I'm a trombone player. Oh I'm a trumpet player. Two, I was just like, Oh, I'm this player. I'm this player. Then I was like, oh no, I'm I'm a musician because I play a lot of different instruments. And then for five ten years, I was just like, yeah, I'm a musician. I'm a professional musician. And I thought I was saying I was a better musician by saying I'm a professional musician. But then I realized a musician is a musician. Right then I got to this next realm of creativity that made me realize, oh, no, I'm an artist because what I do is not just the music. It's the way that I look at the world as an artist. And then as I'm living through my artists, I started healing myself through my art. And now I realize, oh, I'm a creator. Yeah, I'm a creator. Yeah, and and and I and I and I specialize in frequency. So even in my own own healing process, I went from music to sound to frequency. And now I see frequency as the whole, sound as the parts, and then music as the language. Right, And so it's been a whole other world. And now I see myself as doctor Willer creator. Right, I'm a creator now. And and that's and that that it kind of it's just it changed the way I look at possibility. Yeah, you know, that's it's been beautiful. Yeah, you know, I love that. So when you were saying that, I said soundtrack. We talked about this last year, about the soundtrack of your life. Yeah, I remember that. Yeah. Yeah, let's let's talk about our life being a canvas. Let's talk about life being and as we be creative. Just even with some of the ship from the past, even a ship that's going on right now, things that you wanted in the future, These are things that you can take each part of that and create something so amazing for your canvas. So you can always make that canvas blank and start all over again. But as you talk to what that creativity look like. What can what influenced me from parts of my life through me to help me for my self love? What do my self look look like? What does the picture of my self love look like? What the colors that I want to use. That's a part of my aura, that's a part of my you know, my foundation. This is what you can do with that creativity and your expressions because they have with different colors, I mean, different certain things, you know what I mean. Yeah, I mean I call it being a waking mosaic because I believe that I am. I am pieces of experiences and we've all decided to agree to work together, and a lot of us put that canvas in the trash and think we gotta get a whole new camera. Like no, no, put that when you put in the trash back because the truth is that there's nothing wrong with that one. But you were taught to throw that away. You didn't learn enough from that canvas yet until you painted it over. My thing is usually paint over once you live your lesson. Now, you learn your lessons when you live your lesson. And that's a difference. I know. I can see when someone's living their lesson and someone that's learning their lesson. I can tell the difference, especially when because because of whatever I went through, Because of what I went through, I can tell where other people are at. And that's what makes healers so amazing because healers can notice where people are at and they don't adjust them, they don't change them. They help accept them for that moment that they're at. And that's a beautiful thing about healers as well. I always love being around. Yeah, so I want to I want to take a little scoop back for a second, because we know what learning and living give the audience what you mean by that, because a lot of them don't know what you're saying. Yeah, So real quick learning, learning a lesson is understanding that you're not going to be with all the resources and abundance that you need to complete the things that you know. When you know things when you're when you're learning your lesson, you know these things, but you lack the resource to con truly complete it. And so the trial and error that you experience is going to allow a type of character building, personality growth, and a little bit of different environmental situations that allow you to really sharpen that that that that edge, that sword that you're creating right now and then living the lesson is you're no longer worrying about trial and error. You're learning about the way of life. You're learning about the way of life rather than the impact. Right, So when you're when you're learning the lesson, you're you're trying to figure out the impact living the life. You're you're living the way of the lifestyle of that lesson. Mm hmm. Thank you for that, because you know, people say, well, i'm learning, so I'm I'm learning, so that mean I'm living, you know, and and it's two distinctive things. But it's so it's so distinctive, but it's still that fine line. Oh like like, look, look real quick, what's five times five twenty five? What's six times six thirty six? You didn't have to learn that, did you? You living that? You ain't. You ain't struggle. You didn't You didn't struggle. You didn't. My man, I'm like, damn, I ham to low time, So don't go up to seven times right right, all right. I didn't think about it too. I was like, I'm not gonna go any further than I was like gonna get that I got you. I got you. But that's the whole points, Like, even if it's been a long time, you have learned it so well that eve when you go back to it, you still have the confidence. You could have stopped, you could have paused it, you could have been like positive, like we don't ask me that, and we could have edited it back in, you know what I mean. Like, but even even even in the difficult moment, you're able to stand firm because you've completed it right, And that's how you know if you really hear from something, if you if you go back in that situation, did you really did you really get through it? Did you really understand? Do you know? Can you feel comfortable in an uncomfortable moment? Do you know yourself? Yeah, you learned yourself in that moment. So yeah, that's that was That's a really great example way to look at it. No, I like that. I love that. I love that. You know, sometimes what we do, we take one thing and if we do go down these rabbit holes. So if you first knew here and you'd be like, well he just went from here here, it's all gonna connect at the it does. We don't know how it does. But it does. So come on this rib with us. This is a good cred This is a creative. Process exactly, exactly exactly. I know synergy. So let me ask you this. And this is just I just came up your pink brush. What does your paint brush look like? Mm hmm. It's didn't start out with threstles, then, didn't start out with that. I was fingerpainting in the beginning. I didn't know. I didn't I could use a paint brush in the beginning, right, I was use my hands. My hands were getting messy and I had to wash my hands a lot. And then someone noticed me and helped me out, and I asked for help, and I got help, and they would give me paint brushes. And then once I get go that I might get other types of paint brushes because I learned the first one first. Yeah, and so I kept growing and then now I have a gallery or or a plethora of paint brushes now. But then sometimes I still go back with my finger because there was a certain comfort in that moment. So I do come back around, but it's a different quality of intention, right. Yeah, thank you for taking that ride with me. Yeah, that's yeah, that was good. Yeah, gidn't make me think about that. Got me in the first quarter, got in the first quarter, in the second half, I'm good right now. So if you if you all, I'm wondering why did I ask him about his paint brush. He took it when he said about his finger, he took it all the way back to damn their birth. You understand what I'm saying. And so in each one of his examples of what he was painting with, whether his fingers, his hands, the paint brush, even the styles of paint brush, that's to show that everything along the way, what he has connected as tools in life to help them to create what he wants for his life. I want to go back to where he talked about over painting the different canvases instead of throwing it away and racing. These are the different layers, and we can look at them as chapters. We can look at them as years of our life that we continue to grow and we continue to take. Some of them might repeat, somebody might repeat for good, and someone might repeat for bad. But as long as you know what your creative stroke is, understanding what that is, and as you grow, it's going to change and it's gonna get more stronger, and it's gonna be fluent to where you're gonna be just flowing effort. Yeah. Yeah, And I think I didn't plan on living my life this way. But once you learn your purpose, once you learn your creative flow, once you learn the impact of your creativity, the outlets are no more different than just an experience, right. The outlets become a part of who you are rather than a forced moment of experience. You become your outlets, you become your creativity. And for me, joy has been I know when I'm living my joy, and I know when I'm happy. I know and I'm joyful. And there's a huge difference, right, And I think that that's important to really recognize when you're living in joy and finding joy. Yeah. I remember the other morning I woke up and I said, you are really living You are really living in your joy. I looked at myself and I said, I am not lying to myself. You know, sometimes you can fake it. I said, no, Like, I literally have everything that I need to do exactly what it is that I am supposed to do in life. I am I have so much abundance of everything around me, even you are a part of my abundance. You understand what I'm saying, and will you truly sit in it and you be like, oh those conversations with different people, it changed, and people will look at you like hold on that. Ain't say no, it's not so when you tap in, when you go in and you want to be creative expression and you just starting new. My thing is have one of your attention is finding joy? Can I find joy in this? Can I find joy in this imperfection? Y Mmm? I love that because if we're getting into the topic of joy itself, if you don't see yourself in this moment, you are not going to have joy. And and and I'll be very very open with you. I went to a recent event that acknowledged and honored me for my work and it was I was. I was. It was a very happy event, but I was not joyful there. And I was not happy because they didn't respect my name, they didn't respect my bio, my work I've done. They couldn't even I don't know who the person they were talking about. I was like, that's not me. And so if I I didn't feel seen right, So I was like, this isn't this doesn't bring me joy because I don't feel seen like and so I was like, there was a great event, everybody's having a great time. But then I looked at my table, my VIP table, like all the people, and they were looking at me, and they were just like talking to me and reminding me like what I do, who I am, and just like they're just happy to be there with me. And then I had joy reminding myself that oh, it wasn't about this, it was about I can celebrate with my people. Yeah, And then I became very joyful. I'm like, I brought these amazing people together because I see myself in them and they see me and them too, right, And so it was this moment of learning that joy is internal, happiness is external. Yes, and we pursue our happiness, but we be still in our joy. We'd be still in our identity though, Like who I am is to be celebrated. Who I was, who I am, who I'm becoming is to be celebrated. Yeah, right, And so I just appreciated you saying that. That really sparked that in me. Yeah, you don't thank you for saying that. And I just want to go here because you know, I'm gonna go in there, right, celebrated and validated. I want you. Yeah so, and this isn't and please correct me if I wrong. In the beginning of that, when they were not saying the things that you did, right, can I ask you this that you feel like they wasn't validating you. But then when you looked around and you saw everyone that you chose to be in your inner circle celebrate you in that moment, and that is when you said, Oh, it doesn't even matter about this outside. Oh yeah, I had here. It's where you know, I know where my healing came in because I was able to choose the people that celebrate me. Genuinely exactly, yeah, exactly. And I'm telling you that's because when that happened, my brain snapped. I was like, oh, I'm not supposed to be here. I was like, well, let's go have fun. Let's get some drinks, let's start dancings, get some pictures real quick. I look great, I'm on a teel blazer. Let's go like, let's let's work this out. And you know, and it reminded me. I'm like, this is why I do what I do. This is why I have so much joy. This is why I don't have late nights. I have I have awesome nights, right because I realized, oh, I have my space, I don't I don't need another space, right, so that that piece, that piece of knowing is real. Yeah. I love that this had to happen. It had to happen because it had to get it's. Over, it's over me and put my backup again. I was like, oh, I was like, yeah, I'm about to record with Naomi. Let me get this, let me move on, let me move on. I was like, let me just remove on because I had to. I had to react. That was that was sobering, very emotionally sobering. Yeah, beautiful, Thank you for sharing that. Thank you for sharing that with us, because honestly, when people think that you are healed or you are going through your living and your healing is that you don't ever have a slip or school back. But the beautiful thing is that, yes, you're going to have that. But the thing is is that you can acknowledge, you can make it aware, and right then in that moment, you got the tools to be like, oh that's what that was, and keep it moving. Yes, yeah, and I'm not gonna be back next year. But so my thing is, you know, I do it every year. I'm like, I don't. I don't need that. That was that was the reminder. It was the reminder of your worth and and it made me also be more creative about how I want to be seen. Right, it's not it's not a challenge. It's the opportunity for creativity to do curs. So it just cycles. That's beautiful. I love that, you know where let me say this, I'm gonna have to pick you can just saying that. I did this interview a couple of weeks ago, and I was just so opprehensive about doing this. I figured I owed it to the industry on doing this interview. M hm. I did the interview and I was telling them about, you know about my self Love. This is my podcast self Love. I think I told him I was three hundred episodes in you know such and such, And for some reason, I don't know why, I thought that this person was going to be yes, you're doing it for the industry. This fool said, oh, so this is self masturbation. Doctor, Will I promise you know you're lying? You're live. Seriously And I sat there and I see That's. What JR ass get to myself, you know, because you know, because you were just talking about boundaries and you were just talking about looking and watching how people grow. Everybody is not going to celebrate or appreciate what you have. You understand what I'm saying. And so not that he he did it, and he could have done it intentionally, but that but the thing is, it was like, you wasn't supposed to be there any damn way. I wasn't supposed to be there. I knew I was supposed to be there. Oh I'm so mad at myself. Like you weren't supposed to be there anyway. And then it was so funny because he said somebody, I ain't gonna say the person. Somebody said, naomly doing an interview. Naomi don't do interview. He was like, yeah, you went back. You went back thinking you had a good intentions. I just said that. I went back. I was like, you know, I never do events in Cleveland. I'm just gonna, you know, enjoy Now I'm gonna give back. I'm gonna show my face. Yes I don't do events. I don't And so I was like, I know, this is why I don't do this, I just been money on the table. I was like, I could I could have I got I could have bought a new couch in my therapy room with that money. Now need to do couch because I was like, see, it's that humbly. It's not so humbles like it is. It is, but it shows the growth because I remember just laughing because nobody would have got off the phone and then got back on the phone, called him and cussed him the hell out, but I didn't. I didn't because you already knew. You knew you were just trying to You are supposed to be in that space at some point in time, but not with that person. You're not exactly, not with that different wrong dimension. Yes, yes, and how much you might want that person to be that way, it is not, you know. And that was an eye opening for me. So when you said that, you you kept talking. I was like, oh, hold on, that just happened to me. Now we're mirroring our own experiences. I was. I literally walked out, like damn. I could have I could have recorded some podcasts I could have. I could have fixed up some emails, could fixed up my website. The one thing that came out was I got my hair done. I'm out here. I was. I was cute. I was cute and mad. I was just cute and mad. I was just out here. I was just mad at myself. I was mad. I wasn't even mad at them. I was mad at myself. I knew better. Yeah, and that's what it is you you you be upset with yourself. I just said, that's what you get done. But I laughed about it because you know, you know when you like standing out and I know, listeners, I know when y'all standing outside of yourself and looking like, don't you do that? Boy, don't you do that? And you staying here? I got this. I got this because you're black. When everybody looked at me at that table, they all be like, they called me doctor c. Washington Williams. I was like, who is that? I was like, you just said my name completely dyslexic. I don't understand how this happened. And I'm just lexic. I don't even mess up that bad. So for me, I was like, everybody looked at me. Everybody started and everyone the table started laughing because they because they saw my face and he because you know, I'm very expressive. And then I loved the cross. And then another therapist I know, across the table, on another table across but to me, like I was like, I don't know, everybody started laughing because everybody knows that I'm such a good sport about like just a funny situation. But it was just funny how everybody just started laughing because they knew that, like like they're gonna you're not supposed to be here. Yeah, yeah, you know. On that note, let me say this, because I always want to try to give a positive spin on something. I will hope that those platforms, that those different things, that they can truly look at what their intentions are for doing what they're doing, and and understanding the respect and the boundaries of either if it's a guest or if it's an honory that you bring you that you truly do take the time that you truly do take the time to understand who you are having this relationship with at that time. That's it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, And I think you know, the grace in that it was for me to understand that there's more work to be done for myself, there's less work I need to be doing with others. Yeah, and I have to stay the course of my mission, right, and that's and how I'm going to do that is my creative expression. Yes, right, I made it this far because of creative expression, right, and finding my joy through it. So I love it is very sobering, yea. And going beyond our limitations. To tell you that that room was limiting. Yeah, yeah, going beyond our limitation, I write, my beautiful people. Well, look, if you all are ready to deepen your journey on self expression and transformation, remember we got we got something funny. We got the free download of the year, the repook. Actually, this is the last month for this version of this book. I don't know how long I'm gonna keep it up because I might just take it down and might do a whole horror copy of it. Yeah, do a whole horror copy of the first six months of it. But it's been amazing with with this, with this rebirth work book. Again, it has journally prompts, It has a vision board template in it, even a weekly creative tracker that you can, you know, kind of do. And remember we have the podcast connection. So if this you know, episode resonate with you and you got some notes from it, write them down and share them with me. I would love take a picture of it and upload it on PDFs or something like that. You know how to do it. Just do it. 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